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National Champion Competition Shooter Anthony Spinelli’s Loves Slip 2000
National champion competition shooter Anthony Spinelli loves Slip 2000!
As a competitive shooter, my guns see some pretty high round counts, and take a lot of abuse. It’s not uncommon for my guns to reach 5,000 rounds between cleanings on a regular basis. When looking for a gun oil, I need a lubricant that isn’t going to burn off and dry up after a few hundred rounds.
I Use Slip 2000’s EWL on all of my guns to keep them slick and protected, and to make cleaning easier on the rare occasion that I actually clean my guns… When cleaned and lubed with EWL, future cleanings are a breeze. Most parts will wipe clean with a paper towel!
The temperature range on EWL is incredible, -110F to 1250F! Living in the northeast, practicing in the winter can mean shooting in the single digits. In temperatures where a number of popular lubricants would gel up or even freeze, EWL maintains the same consistency as it would on a warm summer day.
On the upper end of the spectrum, high round count practices can heat my gun up so much so that other lubricants will smoke and burn off. This leaves your gun hot, dry, and unprotected. This is a recipe for malfunctions and increased wear on your gun. Even after multiple range sessions totaling over a few thousand rounds, EWL continues to keep my guns lubed and protected.
I’ve tried and tested dozens of lubricants over the years, and I have not found any that come close to the Slip 2000 line.
Thanks,
Anthony Spinelli
G&G Guns tested Slip 2000 products, here’s what they thought.
Slip 2000 Cleaning Products
We were sent a collection of Slip 2000 cleaning products about a month or so ago, including; EWL (Extreme weapons lubricant) and the Extreme Weapons Degreaser. Over the course of the next few weeks, we tested the product on a multitude of different firearms. As a gun store, we provide cleaning services to our customers and have certainly seen our fair share of “Lost causes” come through the door.
The first thing I did when receiving the samples package, was clean my own gun with EWL!
It is a Springfield 1911. I chose this platform to clean first, as every single component bar the grips were steel. I shot around 200 rounds through it, clean it up and left it for a solid month. Upon taking it apart, there was little/no dust in many of the nooks of the 1911 platform; it had also held its lubrication the entire time.
Usually the viscosity of oils means that it gets everywhere and pools, attracting dust. The Slip 2000 EWL (Extreme weapons lubricant) spread incredible thinly, which meant I could use less, saving money in the long run. It also gripped the steel a little better when applied with a soft cloth, meaning the thin film kept exactly where I had put it, instead of vanishing between the cracks. Springfield 1911 custom
The next gun I cleaned was the bosses Glock, daily carry pistol. On a polymer frame, oils can become slippery. Glock pistols have always required less oil, but the dryer finish at high heat meant that carbon was often accumulated on the upper portion inside the slide. The EWL was applied to a cloth and it just wiped off with little effort. As a “Do-all” EWL is one of the best products I have used thus far on the market. Being non-toxic it did not corrode my fingers and was easy to clean up after a spill. I wouldn’t eat it, but it is nice to know it isn’t going to rot my hands!
Then we tested the CARBON KILLER.
An AR15 can be a nightmare to clean after a tactical class. I brought it to one of our carbine classes and told everyone to go nuts. Then we left the Bolt Carrier Groups in solution overnight and it literally wiped clean with no scrubbing. When time is a factor, Carbon Killer is a life saver on the range. It also smells like Chocolate Orange!
Effective, especially after several hundred rounds, I was impressed with how non-invasive it was on the Magnesium Phosphate Bolt Carrier Groups. I took off my flash hider and gave it the same treatment. If you own an AR15, the Carbon Killer is now (As far as I am concerned) essential equipment.
So now we have talked a little about the usual day-to-day maintenance and cleaning, let’s have a good look at one of those “Lost causes” we talked about.
We were shown a 1915 Mauser rifle that had been passed down to one of our customers from their Grandfather. It is a commercial model, brought back from Germany after WWII. It had not only, the LARGEST amount of rust I had ever seen on a gun, but it had been in a house fire that had burst a water pipe. So not only had it been burnt, but the water had then fused onto the steel as it cooled rapidly, creating the perfect environment for deep rust.
I could tell you how the cleaning turned out, but I thought it better to just include a few pictures below. First of all, let me tell you how long this took from start to finish.
I did a pre-soak for around 20 minutes with the degreaser and then went to town on it with a brass brush and a cloth. That was all I used. I am quite pleased (As was the owner) of how it turned out.
Pictures of the Mauser 1915 can be found on the next page. BEFORE
AFTER
SUMMARY
I get sent sample packages all the time, but rarely have I seen something that does EXACTLY what is advertised. I have been thoroughly impressed with the capabilities of this lubricant. After being in Afghanistan, working the front-line and seeing firearms get in all manner of dire straits, I kind of wish I’d had Slip 2000 to hand. Slip 2000 would certainly have made my life a whole lot easier after fourteen hours in a firefight and only six hours before my next patrol.
G&G Guns will be purchasing Slip 2000 products as soon as our present stock of a rival brand is empty. We have been sold on the effectiveness and affordability of Slip 2000 products.
I would like to personally thank Shannon Scheuer for sending us the sample pack of Slip 2000 items. She has been consistently helpful and communicative with any queries and questions we have had. It is most certainly a company we would like to help promote and sell in-store.
We are relatively small! But our reputation locally is flawless. We are looking forward to making that order for your products very soon.
Regards, Aaron “KB” Kilbon General Manager G&G Guns 8465 W Colfax Ave Lakewood, CO 80215
Our 725 cleaner is used in a foamer to great effect!
We got an email the other day where a customer of ours was telling us about the effectiveness of our 725 cleaner. But there was something a little different about this case as you can see in the photo above.
Here’s what he shared with us:
Greg,
We used your 725 to foam our old 1100 Remmington that was jamming. The foam forced into the cavity, it would pick up the carbon and force it out. We did this 3-4 times, waiting 2-4 minutes in between, and the foam came out pure black every time until it was clean. After that we lubed it and she seems to be much happier. Thought this might be interesting for a time saver instead of stripping it all apart.
Dan
This isn’t the first time that we have seen our product used as a foam, but we figured it would be good to share the results of someone using it as such with you, because this is great way to use our 725 cleaner! Take a look at the rest of the pictures Dan sent us.
Just remember to re-lubricate your firearm after using this product to prevent rusting.
M240B gets put through its paces!
A M.Sgt shared this story with us, and we are glad to share it with you.
Sirs,
Recently, while conducting an M240B class and course of fire, I had a chance to give SLIP EWL a good workout.
It is the only lube I use on my duty handguns, shotguns and carbines so I only thought it appropriate to run it on the MG’s. Normally, with the “legacy” issue lubricant, we re-lube the gun multiple times throughout the day out of necessity. As I expected, this was not the case with SLIP EWL.
At the beginning of the day, I put a moderate amount of SLIP on all the lube points, halfway through the day, a few drops were placed on the front of the bolt. The important point here, is that halfway through the day was approximately 8-9 thousand rounds! Total round count exceeded 17 thousand rounds on this one gun, albeit with countless barrel changes. We had NO failures of any kind that were not caused by ammunition.
After those 17 thousand plus rounds we stripped the weapon and found all the major assemblies filthy, but still wet with SLIP. Even inside the feed tray cover, the pawls and feed lever, encased in crud, still worked freely because under the crud it was still moist. Cleaning time was reduced roughly by a third as the carbon, brass shavings, etc. could largely be wiped clean with a cloth.
SLIP stayed on the gun through the heat and friction of thousands and thousands of rounds and as a bonus made the weapon easier to clean.
If you are an armed professional of any type, this IS your lube.
Sincerely,
MSgt “M”
M16A1 Slip 2000 Lube Comparison
I finished running a rifle school last week using Slip 2000 EWL in half of the students weapons and Militec in the other half. I had two students not clean or lube the weapons for 1,000 rounds to compare the results. Weapons used for the test were 2 M16A1’s (1,000 round no cleaning, no extra lube) Neither weapon had any malfunctions do to lubrication
Function test:
Militec, felt gritty, sluggish and slow when cycling by hand.
Slip 2000- felt smooth as though it had not been shot.
Field strip:
Militec- Bolt and Bolt carrier group were dry and covered with carbon. No lube could be seen any where on these items.
Slip 2000- Bolt and Bolt carrier group was covered in carbon and felt damp to the touch. The rear half of the BCG was still wet.
Cleaning:
Militec- Need some soaking and scrubbing on both the BCG and the upper receiver
Slip 725 Degreaser was needed to help break up the carbon on the BCG and worked well.
I noticed that the Slip 725 dried fairly quick while soaking, so I had the student re-apply to make it wet before brushing.
Slip 2000- Cleaned easier. Carbon wiped off with Shooters Choice solvent and light brushing. Upper receiver wiped clean with solvent.
Militec- The students that were cleaning on a daily bases used some light brushing on the BCG and relubing.
Slip 2000- The students that were cleaning on a daily bases where wiping down the BCG and relubing.
During the rest of the week, the students of the class started transitioning to Slip 2000 on their own. At the end of the week I asked what their thoughts were with Slip 2000 even the one who had switch from Militec to Slip 2000. Everyone said that it cleaned up better after shooting and wanted some to take with them.
Patrol Tactical show us how to properly lube a Glock Gen 4 pistol
Our friends over at Patrol Tactical have put together a very thorough video on how to lubricate a Glock Gen 4 pistol. And while they have said that they intend to make a video pertaining to the cleaning of the Glock as well, we know that there is an extremely pressing issue in regard to cleaning this type of weapon. “Are your products safe to use on polymer frames?”
The answer is dependent on the product. Our Gun lube and EWL were primarily designed as lubricants, although due to the nature of these products they clean, and they clean well! In fact the U.S. Army technically classifies them as a CLP(Cleaner, Lubricant & Protectant). However as we developed these as fully synthetic lubricants, rather than deriving them from a petroleum distillate, they do not have an adverse effect on polymers, meaning they are safe to use on every part of the gun.
As for our clean-only products, you need to be a little more careful. The 725 cleaner is safe to use on all surfaces of this gun, and is a great way to cut through grease quickly and thoroughly. That being said though, our Carbon Killer is not safe for all surfaces.
Carbon Killer is exclusively designed to work on metal components only, and while it wont dissolve the frame, it could possibly warp it if left soaking in Carbon Killer. Furthermore it can damage many finishes, which is why it’s best to only use on internal/metal components with baked on carbon. (After using our cleaning products make sure to re-lubricate the metal surfaces immediately to prevent rusting.
We want to say thanks again to Patrol Tactical for sharing their video with us, and we hope that it answered any questions you may have had about lubricating the fine weapon that Glock produces.
Folsom Prison Gas Gun Cleaning Demo
This Gas Gun had not been cleaned for over 50 rounds. You can see the carbon and plastic buildup in the barrel. Slip 2000 Carbon Killer has now made cleaning your 37mm and 40mm Gas Guns simple, easy and safe. Our cleaning system is designed to remove the worst carbon and plastic buildups and reduce the time you spend cleaning and maintaining your weapons.
We took our cleaning system to Folsom State Prison training range and put on a cleaning demo. Here are the results:
The barrel was soaked in Slip 2000 Carbon Killer for 15 – 30 minutes. Soaking times may vary depending on prior usage of the weapon. Allow a few additional minutes, as we did here, when using our cleaning system on a weapon for the first time.
After soaking, a cleaning brush was run through the barrel.
With every pass of the brush, carbon and plastic wad fouling was literally removed in pieces and chunks. For extremely neglected or well used weapons an additional soaking may be required.
After brushing, the barrel was rinsed to remove any Carbon Killer residue and lingering carbon and plastic.
The clean barrel looks as good as new. Only drops of water from rinsing can be seen. For the best results use Slip 2000 Carbon Killer and Slip 2000 Gun Lube as a system.
Once clean, Slip 2000 Gun Lube was applied to the barrel. It will displace any moisture and help protect against rusting. Slip 2000 Gun Lube bonds with the metal, protecting it against black powder corrosion as well as preventing carbon and plastic from building up in the barrel. This will prevent jamming issues and reducing your next clean up time.
With repeated use of our products, most dirty weapons can be back in service within 15 minutes or less.
Suppressors WERE hard to clean.
Here is a prime example of why I love the slip 2000 and proof it works. This picture is a before and after cleaning on a silencer baffle. I have over 500 rounds of 22lr fired thru this suppressor and last night I had to pound the baffles out with a hammer and I couldn’t scrape the carbon off with a knife, so I soaked it over night in the carbon killer, and the carbon build up pretty much wipes off making the baffle look brand new again. The picture doesn’t even do any justice, but it made the baffle a shinny stainless again. Never thought it was possible.
Thanks
Ethan Fonder Double Drop Gun Shop Badger SD
David B. Smith from Precision-Engineered Performance
Greg,
I just wanted to take a moment to relate my absolute satisfaction with all of the Slip2000 products I have had the pleasure of trying to date.
Your Carbon Killer has taken the drudgery out of cleaning all of my development guns, especially the .338 Lapua extra long range rifle. Carbon Killer is an amazing muzzle brake cleaner, which in the past was a job I did not look forward to.
I am now using your Slip2000 lubricants as a barrel treatment in all of my personal and development guns.
As the inventor of the Magnumlite carbon fiber barrel system as marketed by Magnum Research and the holder of the 3 patents relative to this barrel system, I am amazed at the performance of your lubes as barrel conditioners. As a barrel developer, I break in many barrels and have been more than elated at the shortening of this procedure and the resultant ease of cleaning your lubes provide.
I have found that the “clean cold bore” shot is always in the group when your lubricants are used in the bore. I have also found your lubes to be the most stable in the bore for long term storage as well. In the past, lubes have broken down and failed to perform as desired when rifles were stored for any lengthy period. I now do not have to worry about this issue.
I will continue to recommend your entire line of products to all of my clients, shooting associates and customers.
It is indeed a pleasure to find products that exceed the need.
Thanks again for all of your products and wonderful customer service.
I wish you and Slip2000 nothing but continued success.
Regards,
David B. Smith
Independence Training Uses Slip 2000
We train no matter what the weather conditions are, and at one particularly snowy handgun course the hazards of poor maintenance became apparent to some of our students. The temps had dropped below freezing and some of the liquid lubes and grease lubes began to stop up the guns.
We took a break, field stripped all guns, cleaned off the old lube with Slip 2000 725 cleaner, and then re-lubed all guns with Slip2000 EWL. It didn’t stop snowing, but the guns didn’t stop up again thanks to Slip 2000.
Glen Stilson Head Instructor Independence Training
MARINE CORPS CONTRACT EXPANDED
After a successful year of testing, evaluations, and usage, the US Marine Corps has expanded their contract with Slip 2000. They have recently installed 6 additional Slip 2000 Ultrasonic Cleaning Systems and will be adding 6 more in the next 30 days, with more to come. The sole source contract specifies that only Slip 2000 Equipment, Slip 2000 Lubricants and Slip 2000 Cleaners can be used.
The heated dual tank Ultrasonic Cleaning System allows multiple guns to be cleaned and lubricated quickly. One tank uses ultrasonic technology to clean a group of guns while the other tank simultaneously provides a lubricant and corrosion treatment to another group.
Before using this Slip 2000 Cleaning System, the Marine Corps used a solvent tank process that required 30 minutes to clean 1 weapon. By using the Slip 2000 Ultrasonic Cleaning System and Slip 2000 Gun Lube the Marine Corps was able to reduced this cleaning time from 30 minutes a gun to 5 minutes. An armory location using this system is capable of cleaning 400-700 weapons an hour.
This cleaning system has also greatly reduced the hazardous emission control fines and penalties accrued by other cleaning systems in use.
The Slip 2000 Ultrasonic Cleaning System is designed to provide both a safe and fast way to clean a large quantity of guns while also providing an excellent lubrication and corrosion protection treatment. A huge advantage to the system is the use of Slip 2000 Gun Lube to treat the weapons after cleaning. The benefit of Slip 2000 Gun Lube providing superior lubrication for a high number of rounds is well known and documented. However, another huge benefit is that it keeps carbon, lead and copper from building up and ultimately makes the next cleanup time faster and easier.
The first time a gun went through this system it took a 15 minute ultrasonic cleaning cycle to fully clean it. Additional cleanings with this system on a gun after being treated with Slip 2000 Gun Lube (which meets MIL-PRF 63460E) resulted in a faster and easier cleaning. The ultrasonic cleaning cycle has been reduced to 5 minutes.
This expanded contract is testimony to the effectiveness of Slip 2000 products and the dedication of our US Military to be environmentally conscious by embracing and using GREEN products
S.W.A.T. MAGAZINE – KEEP YOUR CARBINE RUNNING
Dispelling Lubrication and Cleaning Myths
I grew up at a time when most every male had seen some military service, and I was treated to numerous tales of life in the service of this country in combat and in peacetime.
That exposure, and a strong desire to get out of the city and actually do something that mattered, led me to enlist in the Marine Corps shortly after my 17th birthday.
While I had fired rifles and pistols before, my education was informal and generally limited to what my Dad and others remembered, as well as the articles in the various gun-related magazines of the time. Cleaning was something that took on an almost formal overtone and was continued for three consecutive days.
This paled in comparison to what I was taught in the Marine Corps Recruiting Depot (MCRD), where cleaning was in fact a religion, and reached Jesuitical proportions at Parris Island. The brand-new M14s were scrupulously scrubbed on that three-day schedule, a remnant of the use of corrosive primers during World War II. No one had bothered to tell the Marine Corps that that was then, and this was now, so three consecutive days it was. Interspersed with the cleaning lectures were equally ardent lectures about why we shouldn’t believe all of the gun magazines and newspaper articles bemoaning the adoption of the M14 and how this monstrosity would lead to the demise of the Western World.
Surprisingly, when we got to the Infantry Training Regiment (ITR) at Camp Geiger, we were issued M1 Rifles, and all of the T/E equipment was what we would now consider old school-M1918A2s, M1919A4s, etc. The training schedule was all field oriented and we shot what was considered a lot (by 1963 standards). On several occasions after returning late from the cold and wet North Carolina training sites, I marched my squad straight into the shower. We scrubbed the mud off our rifles, 782 Gear and bodies. We brought the rifles into the squad bay and briefly cleaned and lubed them on the deck while using the miniscule cleaning gear that we were issued or purchased. We squared our gear away and grabbed a few hours sleep before heading off to learn something new about killing other humans.
What a great life!
I was initially terrified that we weren’t spending enough time cleaning those old M1s, but they continued to work as long as they were properly lubed and moderately cleaned. Then I began worrying that the M14s might be more fragile if they required such constant attention as taught at MCRD. How could that be? After all, they were similar in many respects, so why did one require much more cleaning than the other?
The short answer is that they don’t require a different cleaning regimen because they are different rifles-it is just that cleaning has to be looked at from several widely divergent points of view.
The first and most obvious is that, if there is sufficient time available for cleaning, that time will be used for cleaning, meaningless or not. Second is that, under exigent circumstances, a quick cleaning, paying particular attention to salient points, may be all that is necessary to keep the weapon running.
A military issue is that in many units the armorers-and sometimes even an officer-will conduct what amounts to a “white glove” inspection, wherein the troops will be kept “busy” by performing useless, and sometimes harmful, “cleaning” in order to satisfy the whims of despots and buffoons. Removing protective lubrication or scraping away finish does nothing to improve serviceability-it only destroys the guns and angers the troops.
When the M16 first came upon the scene (shortly after the M14), it was a shock to those who believed in wooden stocks, match sights and big bullets. It was billed as needing minimal cleaning, which turned into self-cleaning, which turned into no cleaning as some rifles were issued “in country” without cleaning equipment. Several issues combined to make a tolerance stack, and malfunctioning rifles were the result.
Probably as the result of these issues in the late 1960s, a myth of grand proportions has swelled up concerning the care and cleaning of the AR platform. This myth specifies that the AR must be kept spotlessly clean, and that it takes an hour (if not more) of steady cleaning for the rifle to be once more useful. Indeed, because this rifle allegedly dirties where it feeds, it must be cleaned regularly and with great care if you are to use it. Also, a few meager grains of sand will cause it to stop running.
The highlight for many errornet pundits comes when then rally around a female soldier whose convoy was ambushed during Operation Iraqi Freedom. “Remember Jessica Lynch” has become a cry of the unknowing, and while the subject makes for great points for their side, it is flawed.
Reports concerning this incident state that there were weapons malfunctions to be sure. However, a sergeant in that convoy stated that the weapons were cleaned daily and were clean when they left that morning. The M16A2 wielded very efficiently by a soldier who killed six of the enemies with it did malfunction-because of a faulty magazine and a broken extractor. This is a service-life issue with the rifle, not a design flaw. While leadership and depot level maintenance might have prevented something like this, the proper steps were not taken at a level above the soldier in the field. An M249 also failed, but that may have been due to lack of training with the weapon. And what of the celebrated centerpiece of this fight? She may have been knocked unconscious when her vehicle crashed at the beginning of the action-but this is casually brushed aside in the bubble gum (gun) forums. The serviceability of her weapon is therefore moot.
Here’s a news flash: Sand in the chamber will stop most guns-M16s, AK-47s, M24s, M1s, M9s and so forth. It is not unique to the AR platform.
Cleaning is a hot-button topic, and a great many (especially AR detractors) really believe that the AR has to be kept meticulously clean to function. While having a clean gun is never bad, neither do you have to put up with the white glove nonsense.
My cleaning regimen may be different from conventional protocol, but it works and has stood the test of time. I normally spend no more than ten minutes doing a field cleaning, and oftentimes less than that. If it takes you an hour, you are wasting time on something or you are doing something wrong.
This is the cleaning protocol that I use. This isn’t “the” way, but rather “a” way. I don’t pretend to know everything, and I wind up learning something new almost every day. Not using what is listed below won’t necessarily get you killed, make you unattractive to a potential mate nor make you unpopular at the local gin mill.
I’ll field strip the carbine and punch the tube with a wet patch. Leave the chemicals to do their work and get to the bolt/bolt carrier assemblies.
Spray the bolt with either Slip 725 or Evinrude Johnson Engine Turner and let it sit.
Clean the bolt carrier assembly by removing carbon from the bolt carrier (yeah, that chrome-lined thing where the bolt goes in) and the bottom of the bolt carrier itself. You can use a wet pipe cleaner to clean the inside of the bolt carrier key, but I rarely do. Do not put anything inside of the gas tube-it is unnecessary, and you will only stick debris in there that can do no good.
Use your toothbrush and a rag to clean the bolt, specifically the bolt lugs. Do not concern yourself with the carbon build up on the bolt’s tail. No matter how you clean it, it will just reappear the next time you shoot it. I had an armorer once tell me that the carbon promoted corrosion. That may well be if the gun is never shot, but I have yet to see a working bolt corrode away.
Attach the chamber brush to your cleaning rod and scrub out the chamber. I generally use a worn brush, wrap a wet patch around it and insert it in the chamber. Spin it a few times and replace it with a fresh brush and patch. Spin that and then dry the chamber out. Clean out the locking lugs with cotton swabs.
Spray some Slip 725 into the upper receiver and the charging handle. Your toothbrush and cotton swabs work well here.
Take a few dry patches and clean the barrel. Note that I don’t normally use a bore brush, and allow the cleaning fluid to take care of the bore.
Before the rockets start flying, let me state that I used to shoot Service Rifle, and am a High Master and a Distinguished Rifleman. I rarely used a brush on my M14NM or match AR-15s. If I felt that the bore was heavily fouled, I ran several wet patches through it, and if I absolutely felt the need for a brush, it was nylon, not copper. Never ever use a stainless steel brush in your barrel.
Understand that this is for a carbine, which by virtue of its definition is a short-barreled rifle. The 5.56x45mm service rounds and M4 carbines are certainly capable of hitting out past 500 meters, but it shines in fights that take place under 200 meters. Bothering with inconsequential increments may not be useful under these circumstances. However, if you have an SPR type, by all means give the care to that barrel that it deserves, but that care may be wasted on a 10.5-inch to 14.5-inch carbine.
Before reassembling, check your bolt rings for serviceability. Insert the bolt into the bolt carrier, and turn it upside down (preferably over something soft). If the bolt falls out on its own, you need to change the gas rings. If not, you are good to go.
Don’t get locked into the nonsense of misaligning the gas rings. The Colt Armorer instructors state emphatically that the gun will run with only one good ring, and I have done exactly that. We have been teaching that misaligning the gas rings is a waste of time for about ten years or so. I have seen nothing that leads me to believe differently.
One of the very prominent AR myths is that the gun runs better dry. It is a myth.
The AR series runs significantly better wet than dry, but there are those who approach this with such great trepidation that they steadfastly refuse to use only a tiny bit of lube on their carbines, causing them to cease functioning after a very short while.
Hundreds of e-net posts speak of using little lube on the carbines, believing that too much lube is the cause of all problems. A friend, a retired Marine MSgt and a prolific Class 3 collector, looks at lube like it was two-day old cat urine, and is absolutely phobic about putting anything more than a drop or two on any gun.
Our experience is that, after poor magazines and operator-induced malfunctions, dry guns are a major cause of stoppages. We see this in every class we have ever attended or taught, and we are satisfied that our observations regarding lubrication are correct.
Consider that your carbine is a machine, and like an internal combustion engine, it requires lubrication to make it function. There are certain wear points in the gun that need attention, and failure to do so can cause a stoppage. A good rule of thumb is to look for shiny marks, which indicate metal-to-metal contact. If it shines, get it wet.
Remove the bolt from the bolt carrier. Turn the bolt carrier over and observe the shiny area on the bottom. This is a wear point. The slot that the bolt cam pin rides in is another wear point, as is the chromed hole in the bolt carrier that the bolt rides in. The entire bolt carrier can use a coat of lube, but pay particular attention to those areas. The military also states that a drop down the bolt carrier gas key is required.
The bolt itself requires a coating of oil, paying particular attention to the bolt rings and the lugs. Those bolt rings function just like the piston rings in your car engine. How long do you think your ride would last without lube?
A properly cleaned and lubed carbine should go a minimum of 500 rounds to 1000 rounds without any cleaning at all. However, using a suppressor will cut that number down drastically, as will firing multiple rapid-fire strings or firing with the selector switch on “Group Therapy.”
I advise shooters that during the chow break they should place a few drops of oil into those two gas ports on the right side of the bolt carrier. The lube will get into the gas rings located handily nearby and keep your gun running smoothly.
Finally, a few drops of oil into the underside of the charging handle are not a bad thing.
The AR system runs much better wet than dry, and we see that during every class.
Understand that it is not the amount of lube used, but also the placement of the lube. At one class, a very experienced shooter was having functioning problems. He pulled back on the charging handle to show me that the bolt was wet, but when he released the charging handle, I could see that the area on the bolt carrier adjacent to the gas holes was dry. I placed two drops of Slip 2000 into those holes and the gun ran fine.
The moral of this story is not just to put lube on, but put it on in the right places.
Keep in mind that when at class and shooting 400-1000 rounds per day, the bolt will get blown dry. Adding oil during break time will keep the gun running and keep you learning new skill sets instead of becoming frustrated with a constantly malfunctioning gun.
In the 1990s I worked for a government agency that had a large budget. We had a fair number of guns and a lot of ammunition, so on the down days I had the opportunity to play and run some informal tests. While the exact results have been lost to the ages, some salient points remain embedded in my brain-housing group.
A totally dry gun will run approximately 100-200 rounds before seeing problems.
A clean, properly lubed gun in good condition should go from 500 minimum to 1,100 maximum.
More lube is not necessarily bad. I submerged bolt and bolt carrier assembly into a bucket of oil, shook it off and placed it into the carbine. It ran like a clock, though I only had enough time to fire off four mags worth of M855 through it.
I have used every type of lube imaginable, going from WD-40 (especially good when you have a dirty gun), to 3 in 1 oil, suntan lotion, butter and even Vagisil-don’t laugh, it works.
I may not want to use any of them for the long haul, but for a quick fix, it beats having a non-functioning gun.
The type of lube you use is something else that is full of mythology and sprinkled with fact. While the military uses CLP, a book several years ago cautioned against using it for cleaning as it “promotes carbon.” Why it only promotes carbon for cleaning and not lubricating is a mystery to me, but I don’t use CLP for anything anymore.
Commercial choices abound, from mystical concoctions of “Sergeant Major’s brew” to a host of “this is the best stuff ever made and we’ll sue anyone who says different” crap.
I prefer to stay away from most petroleum-based products, and use Slip 2000 for lube and that same company’s 725 Cleaner and Degreaser for the other chores. Slip 2000 is aqueous based, eliminating a lot of the contamination issues seen with petroleum products, and their products flat work. I have found Slip 2000 to be excellent and the owner, Greg Connor, is a great American.
If I need grease, it will be TW25B (known in the Marine Corps, where it is used on the up-gunned weapons stations on AAVs as “elephant sperm”). Mad Dog Lab’s XF7 is something else worth looking carefully at, and it appears to work well.
If you prefer to use eye of newt and toe of frog-have at it. My name isn’t attached to any of it, and if you found the absolute key to the cleaning universe, go for it.
My experience over the years as a Marine and a cop and working with sister services, foreign governments, police departments and civilians from all walks of life leads me to some inescapable conclusions.
First is that firearms are machines, and unless you keep them in the safe, heavily lubed, they will exhibit wear. Shocking but true, nothing lasts forever, and the harder you shoot it, the shorter its lifespan. Proper maintenance and cleaning will extend their useful life, but they are going to give up the ghost one day.
Just like you will.
Second is the fact that all guns are no more equal than all people are. The malfunctions that I see at military classes are the result of worn-out guns and bad magazines. In the open enrollment classes, the malfunctions I see are poor quality control on the aftermarket guns, bolt carrier gas keys not staked/staked with a limp wrist, bad magazines and improper lube.
I try not to be shocked and amazed at the poor quality guns being turned out by many, but then the homemade guns-the so-called “FrankenGuns” built with gun show parts and little knowledge-lead me to believe that in the gun world, P.T. Barnum would be a master.
That isn’t to say that all of the companies aren’t capable of turning out good (even great) guns, and often they do. But as a good friend often states, “Even a broken clock is right twice a day.” I’m not impressed with the bleats of “Well, I’ve had this gun for ten years and it has never ‘jammed’ once.” Of course not. Malfunctions only occur when you fire them. I have seen enough of most types to make me realize that the only ARs in my company’s armory are those that meet a standard.
Any gun is a machine, and once in your paws it must be properly maintained. That does not mean incessantly cleaned with obsessive fervor, but rather taking care of those particular areas that affect functioning. Keep a gun book and annotate it with a round count so you can figure out when certain parts (extractor springs, gas rings, bolts and barrels) need replacing. Replace these parts before they replace you.
Keep it lubed to reduce friction, and understand that the more you use it, the more parts need to be replaced. Accept that as a fact of life and drive on.
(Pat Rogers is a retired Chief Warrant Officer of Marines and a retired NYPD Sergeant. Pat is the owner of E.A.G. Inc., which provides services to various governmental organizations. He can be reached at eag@10-8consulting.com)
By Patrick A. Rogers